The Tip of the Iceberg

Famous men who resent/ed being circumcised

 

A E Housman
A. E. Housman, poet
A Shropshire Lad
When shall I be dead and rid
of the wrong my father did?

Housman and his brothers were circumcised in 1873, when Alfred was 14, at the command of his father, who had recently remarried. His brothers "made open complaint...of the ill-treatment which had befallen them" according to his sister. Housman's own reaction is not recorded, but several facts are suggestive. His poetry is preoccupied with "lads" (who would virtually all have been intact) and their death by violence, he was fascinated by Greek and Roman antiquities, especially nude male statues, his work was the restoration of incomplete and mutilated texts, and he told an enquirer his poetry was the result of a physical condition.

Graves, Richard, "A. E. Housman: The scholar poet" 1979, London, Routledge & Kegan Paul (pp 21, 253)


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John Maynard Keynes - TIME cover
John Maynard Keynes
Economist

Sir Geoffrey Langdon Keynes
Sir Geoffrey Langdon Keynes
Surgeon, scholar, bibliophile

Both were circumcised in childhood (Geoffrey at three; if at
the same time, Maynard was seven) to stop them from masturbating.
Geoffrey never forgave their parents.

- R. Darby, A Surgical Temptation, p 298

 

Alan Turing
Alan Matheson Turing, mathematician
The Computer
Enigma

Alan told his friend [Fred Clayton] how much he resented having being circumcised, and also of his earliest memories of playing with the gardener's boy..., which he thought had perhaps decided his sexual pattern.

Source: Alan Turing: the Enigma of Intelligence
by Andrew Hodges, p. 77
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W H Auden
W. H. Auden, poet
Stop all the Clocks

At the age of seven, in 1914, about the time that he went to boarding school and his father went away to war, he was circumcised. ... Auden's operation remained an unpleasant memory.

Auden by R. Davenport-Hines, p31

 

 

Rock Hudson
Rock Hudson, actor
Pillow Talk
Magnificent Obsession

Source: second-hand personal communication

 

 

James K. Baxter
James K. Baxter, poet (New Zealand), 1926-72

Not too far from the Leith water
My mother saw the mandrake grow
And pulled it. A professor's daughter,
She told me some time after how
She had been frightened by a cow
So that the birth-sac broke too soon
And on the twenty-ninth of June
Prematurely I looked at the walls
And yelled. The Plunket nurse ran in
To scissor off my valued foreskin,
But one thing staggered that grimalkin:
Poets are born with three balls.

Letter to Robert Burns (1963)

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JFK at Harvard
John F. Kennedy

JFK was circumcised for "tight foreskin problems" (that is, unnecessarily) at the age of 21 in the Mayo Clinic in February 1938 while he was a student at Harvard.

Although he wrote to his gay confidante and roommate K. LeMoyne ("Lem") Billings,

"... as for your rather unnatural interest in my becoming circumsized [sic], J.J. has never been in better shape or doing better service"

- JFK: Reckless Youth by Nigel Hamilton

this is put in context by a more detailed comment:

"When you're circumcised at a much later age like that, you think of it as a kind of castration, a threat to manhood, so you have to keep on proving 'IT' is o.k. by any means possible."

- The Kennedys in Hollywood by Lawrence J. Quirk

...suggesting that if JFK had had a more foreskin-friendly doctor, Marilyn Monroe might have gone on to become a distinguished old character actress like Katherine Hepburn.

 

Joseph Kallinger
Joseph Kallinger, "the Shoemaker"

At the age of six, Joseph Kallinger, an abandoned orphan later taken in by a Catholic couple in Philadelphia, had to go into hospital for a hernia operation. When he came home his father Stephen, a poor German immigrant working as a shoemaker, explained what the doctor had done.

'He fixed your hernia ... but he also fixed ... your little bird.'
In the Kallinger home, 'bird' was the euphemism for penis.
'What's wrong with my little bird?' Joe asked.
'An evil spirit ... a demon makes your bird get hard and stick out so you do bad things with it. Then your soul goes to the Devil when you die ... but you won't have no demon, because your bird will always be small, small, small!'

- Christiane Olivier
Jocasta's Children: The Imprint of the Mother
Routledge, London and NY, 1989

For the rest of his life Joseph Kallinger ... was to suffer ... violent, overwhelming anxieties about the size and performance of his penis, with recurring episodes of impotence. ... the terror, and the rage against the terror, of being a 'No-Dick' set Kallinger's feet on the trail of the series of hideous sexual murders with which 'The Shoemaker' terrorised a 1960s America drunk on dreams of peace and love.

- Rosiland Miles, The Rites of Man p 42

 

Auberon Waugh
Auberon Waugh, essayist
1939- 2001

My first memory? A first memory of violence, being circumcised at the age of three. There were good medical reasons for it, of course. [Perhaps.] Nevertheless, I remember it vividly - it was very unpleasant!

- quoted in Rosiland Miles, The Rites of Man p 37

 

Dick Gregory
Dick Gregory, comedian, commentator
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Howard Stern
Howard Stern, "Shock jock"

"... I am circumcised, and I tell you something, I despise it. I despise it. I despise it."


"... I dread [rue] the day my parents mutilated me."


"You know, my mother is so into 'natural'. Everythi- , 'The body is beautiful,' you should hear the rap. 'The body is beautiful, we should leave things natural...' So, she wouldn't get me braces. My teeth were as crooked as a four-way intersection in Washington DC, and green, and bu-bu-bu- wouldn't get me braces, My teeth were so wrecked because 'naturally the body will heal itself.' She's like a Christian Scientist. ... but the penis? Right out the window!"


"I am completely pissed off that I'm circumcised."


"I know my penis was mutilated and I called my mother ... I said to my mother the other night, 'I'm really freaked out by this circumcision thing.' I think that I was mutilated. I think my penis would have a lot more sensitivity. ... I'm talkin' to my mother and I said, 'Why did you have me circumcised, exactly?'

"She goes 'You know, at the time I didn't even know why. They took my baby from me and they said you know, "This is something you gotta do."'... caught up in the whole tradition, cause my, y'know, my father was was like, 'Hey, he's gotta be circumcised, he's gotta look like me.'

"And my mother goes, 'I just remember being so out of it that, I knew it was the wrong thing, I knew it shouldn't be done, somewhere in the back of my mind, but how dare I buck the system?' I go 'Well Gee! You're such a loudmouth on everything else, why weren't you a loudmouth on this?'"

[While Stern's heart is in the right place, his facts are often astray, especially figures.]

Adapted from the Howard Stern fan site www.marksfriggin.com:


Genital Crab And Other STD Discussions. September 4, 2003. 7:50am

A listener called in and said he had had genital crabs at one time and they were embedded in his foreskin. He claimed that he had to be circumcised because of it. [Isn't he lucky the crabs weren't embedded in his scrotum! Crabs (pubic lice, P[h]thirus pubis) infest only hairy parts of the body, not the foreskin: the call may have been a hoax.] He was only 19 years old at the time. Since he had had sex both before and after his circumcision, Howard asked him which was better. The man told Howard that sex was better after being circumcised. Howard was surprised to hear that, because he thought it would be better with the extra skin [not actually extra - standard equipment]. Howard bailed out on that call and said he didn't want to hear any more about that stuff. He took a break shortly after that.

 

Wink Musselman
Wink Musselman, Comedian/musician

"I may have foreskin-reattachment surgery.
I’ll either come back as a woman
or with my foreskin reattached."

Interview in OCWeekly

 

A reader and the editor of "Blueboy" magazine

Dear Chuck and Chip and Gang:
   I have a circumcised cock and I could kill my parents and their parish priest at the time for cutting my foreskin without asking me....
   George G.
   New York


Dear George:
   I happen to feel the same way you do. I am Catholic and curious as to how many inches I lost in that hospital back in the 30s....
    _C[huck] E[dwards]

- Blueboy, September 1994

The Catholic Church condemns circumcision.

 

Andrew Tavani
Boston Metro columnist and bloggerAndrew Tavani

I lament the circumcision of my foreskin. A circumcision removes about 70 percent of genital nerve endings. That sounds like a party in my pants. There is no telling what lingering psychological effects I’ve suffered as a result of the pain experienced during my neonatal circumcision.

It’s vexing that the medical community allows the removal of a body part we could actually find useful. Why not circumcise my appendix at birth instead of my foreskin? My appendix could potentially kill me one day if it bursts and I don’t receive medical attention swiftly.

My foreskin posed no such diabolical threat. ... I say, save the foreskins.

Boston Metro March 1, 2006 or Alternavision, Feb 22, 2006

 

Ben Affleck
Ben Affleck

Ben Affleck was apparently circumcised after suffering some sort of injury when a doctor must have decided that removing his foreskin would be easier than repairing it. It was brought up briefly on the Daily Show, and Affleck said,

"I hate the circumcisions! Get enough [caffeine] in me, and I'll tell you how much I hate them!" But the segment stopped there.

 

Brad Roberts
Brad Roberts
former lead singer of the Crash Test Dummies

In one of his pieces, called
"Another poem, entitled 'Circumcision,' is read"
he discusses the realization that he is missing something.

 

Lincoln Kirstein
Poet, dancer and impressario Lincoln Kirstein

- photo by George Platt Lynes

Louis Kirstein, deciding his first born son should be circumcised, calls in the family doctor instead of the traditional mohel, to carry out the procedure, but after botching the job, "septicemia set in, and Lincoln nearly dies.["] To save him, the sweat glands in his groin were surgically removed, leaving physical and psychological scars, locker-room concealments, and castration nightmares that would haunt Lincoln into adolescence.

- Gay City News, 17 May, 2007

 


What some other men have said:

In its original context, with comments

 

In its original context, with comments

I think I could have accepted a deformity that was an accident of nature, but I can’t accept that someone did that to me.

The fact that other boys were circumcised too never made me feel any better.

I used to think there were 2 kinds of boys: circumcised boys like me and real boys.

I was circumcised when I was a year old. I remember my foreskin. I want my foreskin back.

My feelings about the doctor who circumcised me are too violent to describe.

What circumcision did to my body is bad enough, but what it did to my mind is worse.

I was just a baby - I couldn’t stop them.

There's a story by Harlan Ellison with a title that exactly conveys my feelings about having been circumcised. It's: ‘I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream

I feel like half a man.

I have revenge fantasies about circumcision.

I have resented my circumcision ever since I saw my first intact friend when I was 5 or 6.

It cast a pall over my entire life.

It's a life sentence at birth.

I want to kill the doctor who circumcised me.

I have never been able to accept the fact that someone cut part of my penis off when I was a baby. The sheer monstrousness of it haunts every waking moment of my life. Sometimes I think I'm beginning to make some sort of adjustment to it, but then I see an unmutilated man in a magazine or shower and I become overwhelmed by uncontrollable feelings of outrage and disbelief that I was made the victim for life of something so sick. Sometimes I feel I'm at the edge of madness and just can't handle it.

I think of myself and other circumcised men as amputees.

I feel as if part of me had been murdered.

Fear, pain, crippling, disfigurement and humiliation are the classic ways to break the human spirit. Circumcision includes them all.

- from Circumcision, what it does by Billy Ray Boyd

 

To: circumcision_pro_or_con@yahoogroups.com
From: "philip"
Date sent: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:22:24 -0000
Subject: [circumcision_pro_or_con] ruined
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i was cut right after my 13th birthday before then i was proud of my uncut dic but was told by my Mom and Doctor how much better it would be to be cutwhat a LIE!  Now it is so ugly that i am ashamed to let anyone see it and there is almost not feelings in it anymore most times i cant even jack off for the skin is so tight and doesnt move at all and i go soft from the lack of feelings.  And the pain i suffered while it heal was almost embarable for weeks it hurt the head was so tender and hurt for so long from rubbing my briefs then the head peeled so bad as it dried out that it left sores it was horrible i hate my Doctor and Mom and always will for ever for what they did to me!

 

US News
December 19 , 2007

Circumcision

Posted by Benjamin in Addiction Wednesday December 19, 2007 at 02:11 PM

I am against circumcision because I was not circumcised until I was 45. They said I needed it for medical reasons. If I had it to do over I’d tell them to go to hell. I lost so much sensitivity it’s almost unbelievable. No one should do this to anyone unless there is no other way to fix the problem. An if there is no problem it should never be done. To me it is child abuse to circumcise a child for no real reason.

 

 

breastimus onYoutube, May 24, 2009

100% DONT CUT IT! I am polish/European and was born uncut. I moved to USA when I was 2 and felt different from other boys. I didn't like having foreskin so when I was 18 I got cut because I couldn't bare the insecurity. I'm no[w] 26 and TOTALLY regret doing it. I lost SOO much sensitivity. There is NO need to cut your foreskin. It's not JUST a piece of skin. It PROTECTS the penis. My girl and I are NOW expecting a baby boy and we are DEFINITELY NOT CIRCUMCISING!

 

 

Posted by gunner777 on Dallas Morning Views blog @ 8:56 PM Tue, Aug 18, 2009

At the age of 21 I allowed the US military to talk me into getting circumcised. It would prevent disease, they said, and I would be cleaner, which the girls would enjoy (not much clearer than that) and such.

What they didn't tell me was that intercourse would never be quite as enjoyable, that the reduction in sensation while excited would make the area feel almost numb compared to before, and that the increase in sensation when flaccid would lead to make the rest of life uncomfortable.

I still wish I had my foreskin back.

 

cirecire90 Wrote 6 months ago [February 2009]

i m jealous...i m cut n really m mad at my parents 4 having me circumsized...

Comment on an X-tube video of a man masturbating using only his foreskin (NSFW, of course)

 

 

My penis was butchered at birth and I resent it. Wait until men are 18 and let them make their own decision. Otherwise this constitutes forced genital mutilation. How did this barbaric religious practice spread to the general population?

Dave D. Wisconsin in the New York Times, August 24th, 2009 9:19 am

 

These gay men ...

queerty

No. 17 · Jesse
... I myself was originally not circumcised but when I was 12 I slowly began experiencing Phimosis, the closing of the foreskin, my parents ignored it even though I kept telling them I wanted to see a doctor about ti and it wasn't until I was 14 when it began to become difficult to urinate that I finally got to see a urologist, who told me before even looking at the problem that the ONLY way to fix it was circumcision, so I got circumcised and it was a terrible experience, especially since I was going through puberty, imagine having to avoid getting an erection because it would cause the stitches to dig into your penis, AND YOU'RE 14! The age when anything will cause an erection.

It was only after I finally recovered that I learned there actually WERE other ways to stop Phimosis and that my urologist had LIED to me! In order to push a surgery I didn't need.

And being one of the few people that can remember having foreskin and now doesn't have it, I REALLY miss my foreskin, it is terrible not having it, I lost 2 inches!

Posted: Aug 24, 2009 at 2:57 pm

No. 29 · unimac
I wish my parents never had me circumcised. I didn't care about it until a few years after I started becoming sexually active, and then it hit me like a brick wall…the fact that I had something removed from me, surgically, and that it has happened to millions of other men without their consent. I thought about it a lot and became upset about it. It is a serious problem and indicative, i think, of an obscene medical system.

Posted: Aug 24, 2009 at 4:10 pm

No. 49 · Jeff K.

If being cut reduced sensation all that much we'd have all these cut men screaming "I can't cum."

I can't. At least not during normal sex. Only while masturbating. I was hoping to leave that detail out, but oh well. :/

Posted: Aug 24, 2009 at 6:32 pm

No. 51 · Nobody
F*** no. It's my body and I'm still annoyed that my parents had the audacity to cut off part of my dick.

Posted: Aug 24, 2009 at 6:47 pm

No. 52 · Shawn
@Nobody: I agree, but I more mad at the doctor than my parents

Posted: Aug 24, 2009 at 6:58 pm

No. 66 · Mark
My boyfriend is cut. No, he (unlike the other, uncut ones) cannot come unless with his own deathgrip, and yes, it was a very traumatic procedure for him.

Nobody in their right mind should be advocating circumcision especially in the industrialised world.

Posted: Aug 25, 2009 at 1:40 am

 

I certainly have enjoyed my share of foreskins, don't like the look of scars on cocks and regret the fact that I have to wrap the head of my un[?]cut penis in silk or some other supersoft material to protect it during sweaty physical activity. Despite the callouses developed on the glans of an uncut [sic a cut?] penis, my head gets irritated very easily, on into pain, making it difficult to ride a bike or run. So yeah, I have been a bit annoyed at my parents.

- ps onhomosuperior’s posterous August 29, 2009

 

Men who have joined a class action against their circumcisers.

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Plunket nurse: nurse from the Society for Promoting the Health of Women and Children, better known as the Plunket Society.

Grimalkin: An old she-cat, contemptuously applied to to a jealous or imperious old woman.

J.J.: after J. J. Maher, a despised teacher at Choat.